We wouldve been far better off retaining HMS Eagle, she was in a far better state than the Ark. R.M.J. N. Hunt, RNVR), HMS Eday (T/Lt. I remember the look sees on Bulwark and Tiger and Blake. WebWikiZero zgr Ansiklopedi - Wikipedia Okumann En Kolay Yolu . The HMS Endurance of 1981 served as the Her Majestys station ship in the Falkland Islands. I dont want to side with either party (On here), but I think it is a myth that the Tories are stronger on defence. Around 1120A/2, the destroyers HrMs Isaac Sweers (Capt. E.N.V. Hopecrown (British, 5180 GRT, built 1937), KMS O1 then proceeded to the westwards so as to pass the Straits of Gibraltar later. E.N. Shaw, RNR) and HMS Felixstowe (T/Lt. Around 0725Z/7, HMS Clare parted company to join ' Force O ' which she did around 0913Z/7. A few minutes later they stopped and the landings commenced. There was also one subsidiary beach, ' R '. L.J.S. They were escorted by the escort destroyers HMS Lamerton (Lt.Cdr. Personnel from across the Services, veterans and members of the Falklands community joined the Royal Navys Landing Craft community in remembering the forgotten Sobieski, Likely in wartime boosted up a bit. Good points. Anyway, there's an alternate history timeline on this already (sorta). Pacific Exporter (British, 6734 GRT, built 1928), Recorder (British, 5981 GRT, built 1930), Faber, RN) around 2220A/7 hours and landing operation commenced shortly afterwards. Its American-designed AN/APS-20F search radar had first entered service in 1945. A memorial to mark the 40th anniversary of the deadly attack on a Royal Navy destroyer during the Falklands War has been unveiled. The Admiralty had decided to make use of the expected confusion of the landings in North Africa to run two 'small' merchant ships with important cargo to Malta. A.B. By 1982, the youngest airframes would have been nearly two decades old. CATOBAR aircraft like the Phantom can only operate if the deck is pitching a few degrees. Clark, DSC, RD RNR) and HMS Ulster Monarch (Lt.Cdr. They were to proceed to Malta unescorted. During its last tour of duty, the aircraft complement of the Ark Royal was as follows:14 Buccaneer S2s, 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, and 2 Wessex helicopters. N.A.F. The landing ship Derwentdale was also part of this convoy. Pugsley, DSO, RN), HMS Nubian (Cdr. Purse, DSC, RN), HMS Wheatland (Lt.Cdr. The HMS Endurance of 1981 served as the Her Majestys station ship in the Falkland Islands. AR was on a wing and a prayer by the time it was decommissioned. From Sfax, ' Convoy A ' sailed for the landings on Pantelleria. Does that remind you of how the Argentines were flying? KMS A1 was destined for Algiers and KMS O1 was destined for Oran. A.E.T. At 1045A/3, the destroyer HMS Wivern (Cdr. WebHMS Rhyl was a Rothesay or Type 12I class anti-submarine frigate of the British Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23 February 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. arks cmplement of aircraft would have been bolstered with harries perhaps taken from atlantic conveyor, where numerous air assets were lost. Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. T.E. During her last refit she was fitted for four Sea Cat missile launchers, but they were never installed, so she emerged from this refit with no defensive armament. K.G. The same can be said about the fighters on Ark Royal. McMullan, RNR) escorted by the M/S trawler HMS Horatio (T/Lt. A memorial was subsequently erected to the lost crewmen on Berthas Beach which remains a popular site with British personnel stationed in the Falklands. But the large landing craft also saved many lives. Saner minds prevailed and they didnt reactivate any of them. Forth then several more miles out to sea to the spot where the landing craft was last seen in 1982 following valiant efforts to salvage her, and the Still was piped in memory. Could they have spared the destroyermen from their sacrificial picket duty? She was the fifth ship to proudly bear the name of the city and her loss sent shockwaves through We have a surface fleet of 50plus DD/FF and a fleet of SSN a significant amphibious force and 2 VSTOL Carriers. After having been relieved these destroyers arrived at Gibraltar around 0545A/6. It was made up of the USS Almaack, USS Leedstown, USS Samuel Chase, Exceller and Dempo. L. Lichodziejewski, ORP), HMS Lamerton (Lt.Cdr. Arc Royal carried not only the Phantom (a much better Fleet Defence fighter than the Harrier), but also the Fairey Gannet AEW.3 airborne early warning aircraft. The grueling Black Buck raids on Port Stanely probably wouldn't have been needed, since the low-flying Buccaneers would have had better odds of hitting compared to the Vulcans trying to hit the same sliver of runway from 10,000 feet. Durban Castle, July, 1979. the boiler explosion that had prompted bulwarks retirement had never been even surveyed. They were manned by Royal Naval personnel, mainly from 1st MCM Squadron based at Rosyth. A.G. Forman, DSC, RN), HMS Loyal (Lt.Cdr. Thirty-eight years ago, HMS Coventry sank during the Falklands War. Gannets would have made a difference, especially early in the air war. G.L.D. Glenfinlas (British, 7479 GRT, built 1917), W.R.K. Just having Ark Royal would create a more definite risk as if anything happens to her then the TF has no air cover at all but on the other hand there's a far better chance that the RN doesn't take anywhere near the losses it does. The primitive radar technology was ill-suited for picking out fast, low-flying targets hiding in ground or sea clutter. H.E.F. Perhaps the argument would have been better put that the withdrawal from East of Suez leading to the cancellation CV-A01, was erroneous, as that in itself set in-train the intentional run down of conventional navel aviation? L.S. Withdrawing the Ark in 79 would only have further convinced them of our North Atlantic/NATO centric pivot. They also tried Bulwark and pretty much the same answer. But I think the simple question is would we have been better of with just HMS Ark Royal, or as it was Illustrious and Hermes and personally Id say no. For Ark Royal to be operational, a lot of work would have needed to be done. They were escorted by the sloop HMS Stork and the corvettes HMS Pentstemon and HMS Samphire. A.F. Cathay, Ocean Rider (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), Not only the AEW Gannet would have make a diference, the Ark Royal Radar itsel was far more capable for detecting at long range that any other ship at the Falkands. Probably they've end up being converted as Ark Royal wouldn't last forever and there was no appetite for a replacement. Navy X gets new technology off the drawing board and into the hands of our people on operations at a pace that has not been possible before. Derbyshire (British, 11660 GRT, built 1935), From what I have read and been told both the eagle and ark were materially nackered, the fact they got ark beyond the mid seventies was miraculous. It is worth noting that HMSArk Royal,did have a sister ship in its lineAudaciousclass aircraft carriers that was HMSEagle. I have a couple of other lined up to read/listen to about the Falklands too. Menzies, RN), HMS Penelope (Capt. 14 Buccaneer S2s, 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, and 2 Wessex helicopters. D.S. Also arriving at Gibraltar were the Leinster, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch. Argentinas junta were making threats against the Falklandsagain trying to draw attention away from domestic problems. My argument here is that with the ability to launch fixed-wing aircraft which HMS. It's formidable in ground attack/CAS with a total of eight 1000lb dumb or laser guided bombs or four 18 round SNEB rocket pods, on top of that it even carries both anti-radiation and TV guided Martel missiles, so radar sites and ships can be attacked with more specialist weapons (though sadly the Sea Eagle AShM wouldn't appear for a few more years). HMS Hermes, was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military Despite efforts to take the stricken boat in tow, she was eventually cut adrift. Alcinous (Dutch, 6189 GRT, built 1925), Francis Pym was Foreign Minister, John Nott was Defence Minister, a former banker who had no knowledge or experience of Defence matters at all, and he was brought in simply to administer MASSIVE cuts to the armed forces, mainly the RN. 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Commander Task Group 324.3 and Flag Officer Submarines: Commander Task Group 317.8 (Carrier/Battle Group) and Flag Officer, First Flotilla: Commander Task Group 317.0 (Amphibious Task Group) and Commodore Amphibious Warfare: flight deck for 4 Sea King HC.4 (not embarked), This page was last edited on 25 December 2022, at 07:32. Marnix van St. Aldegonde, Would have been interesting! Powney, RNVR) departed Gibraltar to join the convoy KMS O1. From Sousse, departed ' Convoy B ' and ' Convoy C '. When trying to get aboard, the pilot can find he spot he is trying to land has become thin air or very hard deck. We empower all our people, by respecting and valuing what makes them different. Invincibles deck ws too short and dangerously narrow. HMS Rhyl was a Rothesay-class or Type 12I anti-submarine frigate of the Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23 February 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. City of Worcester (British, 5469 GRT, built 1927), St. Essylt (British, 5634 GRT, built 1941), Layard, RN), HMS Malcolm (A/Cdr. IF you keep the Ark, then youve picked expeditionary warfare. L.J.S. Surtees, RNR), HMS Inchmarnock (T/Lt. The cruisers and fleet destroyers then proceeded to Lampedusa. Our ability to overcome adverse conditions means were often the first to respond when disaster strikes. HMS Sheffield after the Exocet missile strike in May 1982 that killed 20 and injured 26 of its crew In a combat zone Andy had additional duties and was part of the ship's first-aid Crucially it also carried the Gannet AEW system which would have provided and invaluable early warning system. From convoy KMS A1 the transports Macharda and Maron were destined for Charlie sector. Cooke, RN), HMS Hussar (Lt. R.C. Learn more about the Royal Navys priorities and what we do day-to-day. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Mandatory Fun, https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hms-eagle-in-the-falklands.447558/. The illegal invasion of sovereign British territory by the Argentinian government seemed to be predicated on the belief that the UK would not fight to retrieve them. If she had been retained I dont think she could have dealt with the South Atlantic without safety concerns for our men as she was very tired in 1979. Do not forget HMS Eagle, a newer ship than Ark Royal. Weather was to bad to land at Lampion Island but the island appeared to be uninhabited. The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. Delinlian, Soldiers protecting the Falklands have been given their first taste of what the Royal Navys new patrol ship can do. More than 40 Grenadier Guards joined HMS Forth for their first exercise demonstrating the improvements she brings to the islands defences over her predecessor. not sure how factually accurate it is but it seems relatively well researched. Duchess of Bedford (British, 20123 GRT, built 1928), Nieuw Zeeland, The headquarters ships HMS Bulolo (Capt.(Retd.) Operating them off Atlantic Conveyor would be hilarious but probably not workable in the slightest. The Royal Navy was in a middle of another round of defence cuts which would have meant some of the capital ships including HMS Invincible would have been sold. Strathnaver (British, 22283 GRT, built 1931), Given the conditions in which some of the Sea Harriers were able to get back on deck its hard not to imagine that some of the F-4s might, at the very least, have suffered damage in landing incidents. Unless this about lessons we shouldnt forget this is just another counter factual. J.W. Cooper, RNVR) and the motor launches ML 238, ML 273, ML 283, ML 295, ML 307, ML 336, ML 338, ML 444 departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMS A1. L.B. 2nd division, Empire Confidence, Lycaon and Theseus. There has been a lot of bagging of the invincible class, and the harriers, by many, and lamenting about the glory days of the big carriers is an easy thing to do. (1). Around 1300A/3, the light cruiser HMS Jamaica (Capt. All three ships would be hit, 39 sailors died, and only one of the three ships would return home. It was made up of the following (troop) transports; They had the same escort as Group III. Reina del Pacifico, H.M. Darell-Brown, RN), cutters HMS Hartland (Lt.Cdr. The only way we could realistically take on another country now is with the US and they have more than enough power projection of their own. You are right will, I referenced Nott as he was removed in 1981 (Start of the cuts). Also the issue if space remains, and all of the conveyors harriers where already disembarked. Neither Albion or Bulwark were ever in the yard. WebDeparted HMNB Portsmouth for 7.5 month group deployment (TG 317.6) to Australia and Far East, escorting HMS Tiger and in company with RFA Grey Rover, RFA Regent, RFA Tarbatness and RFA Tidepool. HMS Eagle was the Russell, RN), HMS Vanoc ( A/Cdr. Group VIII, LST HMS Bachaquero (A/Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) They were escorted by the sloop HMS Stork and the corvettes HMS Pentstemon and HMS Samphire which then went on with the ships for the ' Charlie sector '. Gannets would have eliminated the use of type 42s as radar picket, saving Coventry and Sheffield. Bethell, RN), and 21 LCI(L)'s, 4 LCF's and 2 ML's. Returned 20 Apr 1978. Temple, DSC, RN). Peachey, RN), destroyer HMS Vansittart, sloop HMS Aberdeen and the frigates HMS Exe and HMS Swale. Say a 18/12 split, though that's my opinion at this point. So nothing really changes then, with wholesale disposal of assets only to discover they are needed just a few years later. E.A. Ralph Carter A Raisin In The Sun, Indirizzo Something needs to carry the Chinooks and Wessexes after all. At the time that Ark Royal decommissioned one of the papersDaily Express I thinkgave readers the opportunity to buy a painting of the ship with its Phantoms and Buccaneers on the deck. H.N.A. The Phantoms would have been armed with the radar guided Sky Flash AAM. Royal Marines are able to operate across all terrains and environments using an arsenal of highly specialised equipment and weapons. Cant recall anyone at the time suggesting it should have remained in-service: surely the RN had its hands full in trying to ensure a speedy delivery of the Invincible class? They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Palomeres, destroyer ORP Blyskawica, escort destroyers HMS Lamerton, HMS Wheatland, HMS Wilton, minesweepers HMS Acute, HMS Alarm, HMS Albacore, MS trawlers HMS Hoy, HMS Incholm, HMS Mull and the motor launches HMS ML 238, HMS ML 307 and HMS ML 444. The island surrendered in the evening. Assuming AR is in good nick, then the struggle in the air very likely would not have happened. could have made a difference in the Falklands War and perhaps even have prevented it. For ' X ' beach Turner, RN) made contact with the force and the ships were guided to their positions for the landings. Around 1815A/7, the section destined for ' C Sector ' (Charlie Sector) parted company with the convoy. Whether it be in the heat of the desert or ice of the Antarctic, we are ready for action in the most extreme environments on earth. From convoy KMS A1 the following ships were assigned to ' A Sector '; Dewdale, Lalande, Manchester Port, Ocean Viceroy and Ocean Wanderer. Exceller (American, 6597 GRT, built 1941), Marnix van St. Aldegonde (Dutch, 19355 GRT, built 1930), They were escorted by the light cruiser HMS Aurora, destroyer HMS Wivern, corvettes HMS Gardenia, HMS Vetch and the motor launch HMS HDML 1139. Holland-Martin, DSC, RN) and HMS Tartar (Cdr. The island surrendered shortly before noon without further fighting. Would the Atlantic Conveyor still have been sent? Batory (Polish, 14287 GRT, built 1936), Otranto, T. Johnston, RN), sloops HMS Deptford (Lt.Cdr. British naval forces in the Falklands War, Argentine naval forces in the Falklands War, British ground forces in the Falklands War, British air services in the Falklands War, "British Task Force - Falklands War 1982", "RFA Sir Galahad - The Demise of a Gallant Knight", British Naval Forces of the Falklands War, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_naval_forces_in_the_Falklands_War&oldid=1129419299, Articles with dead external links from July 2020, Articles with permanently dead external links, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. Plus if we look after them theyll almost certainly last 50 years. 1982-apr-22: recommissioned from disposal list: 1983-may: Deployment: On station off Falklands: 1983-jul: Aircraft: 829 Sq Wasp HAS.1 XT786 assigned as /441-FM by Jul 1983 to 7 Nov 1984: 1984-mar: Deployment: departed HMNB Portsmouth for 5 month Far East deployment, This is also an area for any with an interest in all things HMS RHYL. Groups VI and VII were escorted by the light (AA) cruiser HMS Delhi (Capt. The fast convoy, KMF O1, would, after passing through the Straits of Gibraltar make rendezvous with the slow convoy, KMS O1 in position 3626'N, 0115'W. The likelihood of retaining the territory would have been very low, and likely that the Argentines would have held back their plans. Walt Whitman, Having, in my opinion, one of the best naval strike aircraft of the period available ends up with the runway put out of commission far faster and far more permanently than the Black Buck raids would ever accomplish. From the Vanguard-class ballistic submarine to the formidable HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier, our equipment is among the best in the world. Abel Smith, RN), destroyer HMS Clare (Lt.Cdr. Thankfully, the Sea Harrier was not limited in deck movement very much at all!". They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Pozarica, escort destroyers HMS Bicester, HMS Bramham, frigate HMS Rother, minesweeper HMS Cadmus, MS trawlers HMS Juliet, HMS Rysa, HMS Stroma and the motor launches HMS ML 283, HMS ML 336 and HMS ML 338. Stanhill, Also, can whomever writes these articles stop referring to RN ships as the HMS Ark Royal? HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. I heard that the the yanks were impressed by the Bucks at Red Flag. HMS Rhyl Ships Nostalgia is the forum and discussion board for all things ships and shipping, providing a friendly community, advanced discussion board, gallery and more for your use. Had there been a conventional carrier down there, such as Ark Royal, we would have been out of limits a lot of the time. Access dedicated veterans charities and get all the support you need, from help with any mental health issues to financial advice. I do think that optically whether the Ark was a basket case or not, the Argentines may have thought twice about invading if we had the capacity to send thee carriers down there, one of them with fast jets like the Phantom. J.H. Convoy KMS A 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 2345A/5; it was made up of the transports; There were also plans to sell the Australians the HMS Invincible, but after the Falklands war, and the government seeing the utility of this ship it was decided to cancel to sale. Obviously a third carrier would have been beneficial and given us greater odds. Retaining HMS Ark Royal,anAudaciousclass aircraft carrier,would have been beneficial in the Falklands War and perhaps even prevented it. Mooltan (British, 20952 GRT, built 1923), E.A. You can help improve our commands section Maron, On June 8 the craft was ferrying Land Rovers from Goose Green to Fitzroy to support the final push on Stanley and help bring the war to an end. This is the place for you, Everyones experience is unique, but find out what lifes been like for others here, Everything you need to know about joining the Royal Navy, in one place, instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser, Defence review will forge a growing Navy with expanding horizons. Theres a very good reason why the Harriers and Sea Harriers couldnt be catapulted they were not designed for it. Island nation that operates a just in time supply chain for just about everything. The war needed to have been fought as long as the Argentinians held the Falklands. C.R. Sinclair, RN), HMS Amazon (Lt.Cdr.(Emgy.) Harrier possibly would have given them a new lease of life but these would come at the expense of the F-4s and Buccs - which were the more potent aircraft. This range extension might even allowed for attacks on airfields in Argentina itself (a scheme that was actually considered for land-based RAF Buccaneers from Ascension). We (in 1982) are a major NATO nation, a nuclear power with multiple tactical nukes as well as Polaris. It would have changed were the weaknesses lay. W.R.K. HMS Largs, landing ships, landing craft and escorts were then ordered to proceed to Sousse. Following Royal Ocean Viceroy, At 2040A/7, the destroyers HMS Wishart and HMS Velox joined and the ship was taken in tow by HMS Wishart. Empire Confidence, This was a state of the art missile at the time, but the aircrafts systems could only engage one target at a time. The ships were later taken over by the Italians. They bomb stuff and do it well. M.D.C. Meyrick, RN) also departed to join the convoy. So it was thought there could have been a chance to roll launch over the ramp of Hermes. Loveband, RN), escort destroyers HMS Bicester (Lt.Cdr. Benalbanach, The Gannet's electronic eyes were also from a bygone age. Domestic problems 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, 21... 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