State govt has been acquiring properties for more toll roads of late and they have been getting low-balled big time, totally screwed over. As parts of the great ocean rd have began to crumble into the ocean. https://www.swellnet.com/comment/772908#comment-772908. It is all about the road. I do however feel there needs to be more separation regarding fact and opinion in your article. They can be excused as they thought theyd be informed before any such works took place, as per the 2016 Coastal Management Act. As you know we have the Great Ocean Road down here , which was a huge Tourist attraction ( before Covid.) I imagine the ocean will eventually claw away under and around and over the structure. The beach has remained under threat since that time, with additional erosion occurring during subsequent storms. Yulex geta second chance at a first impression, and this time they makeit count. I'd imagine brendan and surfrider will have that covered. Mr Horton said there has been some very minor erosion at Collaroy/Narrabeen Beach this week, along with other NSW beaches, but it is not a cause for concern. The seawall is protected from the direct onslaught of waves by rows of granite boulders which are reinforced every year to stop erosion. Surely a planned retreat is the only way forward. Rad demo john interesting as Craig said to see the changes in shock waves returning seaward. Such a shame its job wasn't to conserve the beach and public access at the same time. they might be right basis forecasts but beachfront owners bought in an area that didnt previously exhibit high erosion issues. In blustery, unfavourable conditions, people began lining up at 4.00pm Saturday afternoon (27 November) between Collaroy and Narrabeen to form a 'line in the sand' against the seawall's construction. However, a few queries regarding your post: "Sure if youve bought the last 5 years ignorance cant be an excuse" - why does five years give one grace? There is currently an online petition to stop it extending to the Marquees. Go figure! Narrabeen and Collaroy residents hold signs and protest their opposition towards the sea wall extension plans in November 2012 In November 2002, Harmer and Donohue led a protest against a $12 million sea wall, proposed by Warringah Council, with 3000 people linking arms along a 1.1km stretch of beach. Craig - we are expecting you to be down there at High Tide 11pm tonight with your Torch and Box Brownie for some more pics, Nah wait 'til tomorrow mornings high. Drone footage over Collaroyafter the June 2016 'Black Nor'easter swell' (Photo: UNSW Water Research Laboratory). Stick your comments up your arse fuckwit engineers dont approve shit like this they get paid to do what they are told direct your retarded comments at millionaire house owners and council you piece of shit. Records show the DA for the Collaroy Seawall had been lodged 18 months earlier in July 2018. Thanks again for your time and effort to make these articles, as we all truly appreciate them. GCCC's approach protects both private property and public beach amenity without any visible structures on the beach. >>How can you say there is no evidence unless you have the facts to prove it? A much higher amplitude as well. 47 votes, 47 comments. Anybody heard of rising ocean levels & retreat by wealthy landholders who where allowed to build in the dune systems which nature designed to replenish the beaches? Im presuming that sand delivery's from the lagoon will be an ongoing thing. Also I'm suspecting at the lga level the up front investment to do this work can be a hard sell. Meanwhile, those on the other side of the divide are fearing the precedent of a return to hard structures and what this might mean for the rest of the Collaroy and Narrabeen beachfront, not to mention Wamberal, Old Bar, Byron Bay, and any other area where bad planning policy has created a wicked problem. There is no better option. Great article highlighting the competing interests of the natural environment and local councils (which are too easily manipulated by wealthy stakeholders). Photograph: Wendy Harmer Coastal municipalities have been tackling the problem with a suite of measures. I have a blanket policy of not feeling sorry for people owning properties worth multiple millions of dollars, who have lived the better part of their lives walking from their beachfront home directly onto the sand. Brendan Donohoe says the . EDIT: Just to be clear, the issue of erosion has nothing to do with sea level rise, climate change, or buying the latest board. Structures appeared. Inevitable as the ocean winning, is a painted "cock and balls" on that wall. Took the words out of my mouth. And cap prices for market value pre 2000. Luckily these sections of the Roads are at the far inside of pointbreaks so the wave energy is mostly weak, with little rebound affect. Among many objectives, it outlines how people living in threatened property might defend their homes. Should this critical lens be applied to other topics such as the Coolum wavepool? The fact that an engineer/s designed this crazy-ass wall is the concern I raised. Northern beaches residents have been worried about how their beloved beach would fare when large swells and high tides hit the controversial Collaroy seawall. Any system that affects the coast from a different angle upsets the balance of that orientation and the system then takes considerably more time to re-adjust. There's been a lot of work done to gain a better understanding of the value of the beach re both market and non-market economic benefits. Isn't an extension to the Point Cartwright breakwall on the cards aa well? If that is to be avoided there needs to be a concerted effort to gain the support of the wider NB community to create pressure on the council to develop a more acceptable plan. I first noticed them when I went to Nijjima island in the early 90's and asked what were they reply was to protect the land from erosion.they actually had the moulds for the TP's there and just kept making them when needed.. That is why this option was selected for Palm Beach Qld, and I think should be considered for all the other coastal erosion hotspots along the NSW coast as well. On the release of his latest edit, R-Cal chats to Swellnet about love and other acrobatics. exports the same quantity of energy in green electricity and hydrogen as it exports in thermal coal and liquefied natural gas. Lance Knight. It's orders of magnitude more than a bunch of multi-million dollar properties at risk. On the release of his latest edit, R-Cal chats to Swellnet about love and other acrobatics. No fuckers complained about the rebar reef. One thing about mankind. The works to protect private homes is being 80% funded by private owners, with Council and the NSW Government contributing 10% each. Further to the north, sand that was built up in front of properties has been scoured away leaving an eight foot drop-off. PW road and any associated public infrastructure was used as a eligibility factor for public funding to protect the private properties. Thanks so much zen! This would be a better solution, I think. I like the cut of your pedantic job, there Lilas. Shows what not to do, i mean it'd have some value in an inlet or lake subject to openings to the ocean in storm surge/high tides. It is a difficult and wicked problem. I have written to the Office Of Local Government about my concerns over the hiding of the second DA. "Have you ever seen such a magnificent view as the one from our balcony overlooking this active volcano? My working assumption is that they have behaved unethically on this matter. Pre-existing or failing seawalls (if any) should be removed as part of Step 2. I put up links to both DAs the other day. and the sick irony of the beach access sign detailing the seawall works with all "enquires to be made We have over 40 years of combined experience installing, maintaining, and repairing seawalls on both residential and commercial properties. "We haven't had a flood here for 20 years you say. Pipeline specialist injured while duckdiving in heavy waves. Also, it's a not so secret secret, anyone who speaks out about this have been known to disappear. Yeah nah. For Sydney its not just beach suburbs. Those properties are the responsibility of the owners. I get informed about a proposed bike lane two suburbs away, questions an aghast Donohoe, but I hear nothing about construction abutting a nearby public beach?, Gordon was equally puzzled: I guess people become frustrated with the bureaucratic process and find ways of not involving the public. Only thing that would be better if they made a foot path on top of it so wheel chair bandits and a like get to use the cost line as well, "Or boarding a jumbo jet to go for a surf and buy the latest board all things responsible for the needing of the wall in the first place.". To my way of thinking, and with a working understanding of government process, the real issue is the approval process. When deciding to spend rate payer dollars, on what metric do they use without using the big IF ? Lake that has been going on for the last 20 years. And it would also provide some useful evidence for fighting against any similar future proposals. Precarious! For those who object to it, there is something hostile about Collaroy's multi-million-dollar sea wall. Hey guys I need to write an informative paper based on remedial measures used to protect infrastructure against erosion. Thanks Craig aod if you are THE Jody P, yes you are a ledge. Confirming that they were involved in the initial design only. Newiie Harbour was pumping. It's propped up by the NSW and local governments way beyond the importance or value of that stretch of private land. good pics there willi, hadn't realised this. The market knows the insurance companies know this. Granted the Reality series and Aero are ludicrously expensive at the $2,000 barrier, but they're promising to push a more immersive, satisfying VR experience that delivers on incredible fidelity. Or boarding a jumbo jet to go for a surf and buy the latest board all things responsible for the needing of the wall in the first place. lilas Manly Hydraulics did the work which was used for the initial design but I am not so sure about their input on what was finally constructed. So where public assets like roads are involved things get really sticky. I tear up and swear to myself. Collaroy Park Estate Narrabeen: Sea View Pde, Beach Rd, Collaroy Ave, Main Pittwater Rd, Govt. Zen, it looks like an absolute disaster but Im guessing its not so much about coastal erosion but more about tsunami mitigation?? Premium ad-free surfcams, dawn surf reports, and more https://www.sydneycoastalcouncils.com.au/sites/default/files/JRCorkill_A https://www.surfline.com/surf-news/theyve-kerbed-guttered-narrabeen-beac https://www.scs.nsw.gov.au/soil-conservation-services-projects/collaroy- https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/g https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/collaroy-na https://www.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/council/news/whats-happening-coll https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/peter-horton-coastal-engineer, https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=144437777895204. More than a year after severe storms damaged property in Collaroy, construction of a long-awaited sea wall is underway. Picture: Nearmap A subsequent image of Collaroy Beach from June 8, 2016. It only does BOUSSINESQ wave interaction and NOT sediment transport but you can still get a lot of good design-feedback The council had an interest in preventing future erosion impacting Pittwater Rd, the main north-south artery on the NB. But unlike a rock revetment at Stockton, which gradually collapses into the beach, Collaroy's sheer concrete wall relies on deep foundations to stabilise it. Collaroy resident Tony Cagorski lost more than 10 metres of his yard during the weekend's wild weather, undermining the foundations of his home. Great article.. https://www.smh.com.au/property/news/coastal-properties-at-highest-clima @Craig This is a massive issue around the world from which there are countless learnings. Making it deeper? Hows the Seawall holding up? The engineers would have likely argued against this for the reasons given above (and then some). I don't disagree with most of that. "Sea walls do nothing to ensure the ongoing conservation of the beach in front of them," Mr Donohoe told crowds. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=144437777895204. And since there's been no budget allocated for future buy backs. You have a decade of good conditions somewhere along the way and everybody builds on the beach or on a river bank and then there reminded of the risks being swell generated by a low and annual big tides in cyclone season who woulda thought ..or flooding by jingoes fuk wouldnt you rather walk an extra couple of hundred metres and leave nature to do what it does . stupid white poeple ..classic. In a 2007 story for the Sydney Morning Herald, both Rob Stokes and a spokesperson for Warringah Council admit buyback isnt feasible and that other means of defence would be necessary, such as dune reconstruction, revegetation, and sand nourishment. Thats tens of thousands of homes). However, theres an irony that could've beenliftedstraight out of a script for Utopia. For the most part I understand buybacks but, how will they appraise the value of these properties? As far as I know their job was to asses the designs given to them by the Coastal engineers, not to actually create any designs. Until then the owners can continue to enjoy their delightful seashore experience. We spoke to expert coastal engineer, Peter Horton, about the current situation and the coastal protection works he designed to protect the properties from large and powerful surf. It makes perfect sense doesn't it, stop/dissipate the energy before it has the chance to have an impact. Gold Coast City Council had a similar problem to Collaroy at Palm Beach Qld. My guess is that their engineers took a different view of how to best manage the situation. The Collaroy Beach coastline on May 6, 2016 before major storms swept the shoreline. The process is cyclical, however short-sighted development upon the foredune, built during times of a wide beach profile, impedes the system. There are many software suits now that can handle very complex near-shore modeling, including sediment transport from wave and current action. However, the work then continued skyward with a seven metre vertical concrete wall on top of the foundations. Google "End-wall effect erosion" and you'll find many papers/studies on this. Men sand-bag properties on Collaroy Beach Arlington Building and a run of houses to the north circa 1922. Same old issues, with a more educated market. It is worth remembering that this council, as Warringah, council, was twice dismissed for corruption and incompetence. NewsDNARaw. I hope this Collaroy wall hasn't set a precedent. Preparation of sea wall GPS file suitable for upload to GPS rover or machine guidance equipment. Then there is the question of the parameters given to the designers of the second structure. I wrote to Many Hydraulics Laboratory to ask for the details regarding the sea wall assessment they produced. Normally large swells from the SW have very little affect on the beaches around here because the great ocean rd is comprised of Rocky headland after headland. The Local Government Act allows the council to set a special rate to pay for that. Moreover, the current DA makes no mention of sand nourishment from sand sourced elsewhere, such as deeper water offshore. I recently moved house [Northern-Rivers nsw] and seal-level rise was a very serious consideration of mine. So there is probably another DA somewhere. Probably not council's fault then, happy to blame the owners! Avoiding these types of impacts has been part of state coastal management policy around the country for the past 30 years. What some consider the ugliest wall in Australia could soon be bigger, with residents pushing to extend the Collaroy seawall on Sydney's northern beaches. The local community group has been protesting against a seawall for almost 30 years. Can't see sand staying around with all that crazy activity. Here's the full video with audio. Good point, lilas, that explains the mystery of why aborigines didn't build their homes close to the ocean. These walls stick straight up into the air like a fence made of steel or concrete. Initial reports claim Marcio Friere wasn't wearing an inflatable vest when he was held down in large waves. There are 11 parcels of public land (including the Collaroy carpark, South Narrabeen Surf Club, reserves and road ends) interspersed between 49 private parcels of land that require protection. You can go to court to complain about the price, but you cant object to the acquisition. Has any one ever suggested an off shore reef, seems like a win-win or is the sea floor unsuitable? Thanks Stu, didn't even know such a thing existed here. @yeti. Collaroy homes along Pittwater Rd have been cordoned off today. Sorry wasnt specifically referring to collaroy which I completely agree has been a known and long term problem. 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